Whereabouts in the
United States do you originally hail from?
I’ve never lived anywhere but Kansas. It’s always been my
home. I grew up in a little tiny town called Madison, Kansas – I had a grand
total of fourteen people in my graduating class.
It sounds like it was
rural, then.
Exceptionally rural. I’ve never lived in a city bigger than
25 000 people.
What sort of music
did you listen to while you were growing up?
Mostly I heard what was on the radio. I grew up listening to
classic rock and then I discovered blues. As I got older more, different kinds
of rock ’n’ roll and once I had wheels I was able to drive to the closest city
and buy music, then it kind of opened up more. But up until I was about
thirteen it was mainly what was on the radio or eight-tracks or LPs or
cassettes that somebody happened to have. Mostly it was classic rock and the
blues.
Given that you were
in such a small community, did you have any musical friends to talk about music
with or share music with?
I did. I grew up with a couple of different people who were
good musicians. One of them was a few years older than me, so I learned about
some things I wouldn’t have learned about otherwise. Then another was my age
but he would go off to summer camp really far away from where we grew up and
he’d come back with all this interesting stuff that you couldn’t hear on the
radio back then, at least not on a commercial radio station, like Depeche Mode
and The Cure. He was into stuff like that but I’d never even really heard of
it. It was before the [Red Hot] Chili Peppers made it big – that kind of
alternative scene before it really blew up.
At what age did you
start playing the guitar, and what made you start?
Well, my biological father was a guitar player. He left when
I was really young, but for as long as I can remember all I ever wanted to do
was play guitar and listen to music. I started playing when I was fifteen. I
got a guitar when I was thirteen and I couldn’t really make any music out of it
at that point, so it mainly just stayed in its case. I really didn’t start
playing until I was fifteen and then I picked it up and things kind of made
more sense. I don’t know if it was a mental maturity thing or what. Music’s
always just been really deep inside of me. As long as I can remember it’s one
of the things that I’ve always had. I think it is the thing that I’ve had the
longest-standing passion for in my entire life.
I know you don’t sing
in this band, but have you ever sung?
I do sing a little bit. I’m not a very good singer. Some of
our early records, actually, I did some singing on but I just don’t have a very
good singing voice.
I tend to find that
people who say that are better singers than they think. But I’ll leave it and
move on another question. As you started to play guitar and find your musical
voice in that way, did you develop different musical influences to the ones
you’d had before that? Did you start to listen to music differently, to pick up
guitar parts or because it seemed interesting?
I think I did as I got older. Right at the beginning I’d say
no, that was not the case, because I was so limited in what I could do. But as
I’ve gotten older and still to this day I’ll hear things differently that I
maybe didn’t notice even just a few weeks ago. I don’t know if this ever
happens to you but there’s times when I just have certain days that things just
sound different and I’ll notice things that I’ve never noticed before and I’ll
hear songs almost like I’ve put a different filter on my brain or over my ears.
It makes me hear things like I’ve never heard them before and that still
happens to me with a good bit of regularity.
That sort of
experience is ephemeral – you hear it but trying to record it in your brain is
quite difficult. Do you then tend to pick up a guitar and try to … it’s almost
like working out a puzzle.
Sometimes. One of the best songs that I’ve ever writ kind of
just dropped into my lap. I either had it in my head and picked up a guitar and
figured out what it was in my head or I was just dinking around, playing, and suddenly
I had a new tune.
And that sort of
activity suggests that you don’t tend to censor yourself too much – you trust
what comes through. You may edit it afterwards but you certainly trust the
source.
I think so. If I hit onto something that’s pretty good I
usually know it almost always in the moment. The biggest mistake that I make is
that some of the best songs I’ve ever written I forgot before I could get them
recorded. A friend of mine and I used to joke that we were lifelong members of
the Forgotten Licks Club. So much comes out sometimes and if you don’t capture
it exactly how it was, it’s gone. If I know I’m kind of in a real good spot
when I’m playing around on my guitar by myself, practising – I don’t do as much
as I should these days – I will record myself. It’s so easy now with cellphones
and such. But I’ll record myself and oftentimes go back and listen to it and
think, ‘Well, I don’t remember that at all’ – so that’s good. Some of the tunes
that have appeared on a record have been that way. They’re songs that I wrote
or riffs that I wrote that I’d kind have forgotten about but luckily I was
rolling some kind of recording device to help revisit them.
You said that music
is a lifelong passion – did you always want to be in a band?
I always wanted to be in a band. I started playing guitar in
December of 1989 and I think I was playing semi in a band, at least very
informally, within four, five, six months. It happened pretty quick.
And were you the band
leader of those early bands?
I was always the one that seemed to find the guys, yeah, I
would say so. I look back on it and realise that for my age period and where I
lived I had a resourcefulness that I am amazed that I had. I remember calling
up to the local university when I was fifteen years old and speaking with the
vocal professor there and asking if he had any college kids that may be
interested in singing in a rock ’n’ roll band. The guy literally just printed
off his entire class list of all his male singers and sent it to me in the
mail. Looking back on that it’s, like, ‘Wow, that’s pretty unbelievable.’
Except I wonder if
it’s not to do with that passion you mentioned earlier – you had that drive to
be involved in music and the practical side of that is, ‘If I want a band I
have to get the elements together.’ I can certainly see that continuum.
I hadn’t thought of it like that. I certainly found a way to
make what I wanted to happen, happen, from pretty early on.
And, of course, the
current band is now seven albums in. When did Moreland & Arbuckle form, how
did you meet? Did you like each other straightaway?
I did like him straightaway. I met Dustin Arbuckle at an
open-mic in the early part of 2001 then later crossed paths with him again
because I was just doing this little solo home-spun thing and I needed some
harmonica on it. I didn’t even know he could sing at that point. I hadn’t heard
him sing, I’d just heard him play harmonica. Then we got together and I heard
him sing and I said, ‘Damn, man, you’re a really good singer. This really works
good.’ We were both at that point wanting to play pretty much pre-war
traditional blues and even though Wichita’s about half a million people there
really weren’t a whole lot of other people around that were interested in that,
so it clicked right away.
And pre-war
traditional blues is very specific, so it seems almost like you might have been
destined to meet.
I would say that’s absolutely right. I’m a firm believer
that everything in our lives happens for a reason. I think most things are
predetermined to an extent. I’m a big believer in fate, as you are saying.
Your current album is
your seventh and there’s a sense on the album that this is a band who knows
exactly what you’re doing – you know what your sound is and you’re not trying
to prove anything or sort things out. But did it take you a while to find your
own sound?
Well, it’s kind of interesting – it sort of goes back to
your question of how the band formed. It’s been an evolution, for sure. We’ve
gone from playing just the two of us, as a harmonica and acoustic guitar duo
doing the pre-war blues stuff to playing in a quartet with typical guitar,
bass, drums, singer and Dustin would play harp, and some of that early stuff
was really more of a blues-rock jam band typical of what you’d hear out of an
average band. And once we lost our second bass player we realised at that point
that we were just going to move forward without a bass player and see what
happens. I wasn’t really that excited to do it but Dustin convinced me that it
was what we should do and it’s actually really worked out well. There have been
many permutations that have got us to where we are now and the sound has
evolved very much in an earthy, non-planned way.
When you mentioned
that you weren’t too excited to not have a bass player, was that because that
was convention and you wondered if you could do without one?
That’s exactly right. I said, ‘Man, I don’t know how I’d
ever do this’, and actually I kind of had a knack for it and I didn’t know it
because I’d spent all those years just sawing away on my resonator guitar
playing old blues stuff … I had it in me and I just didn’t realise it at the
time.
Certainly, listening
to your music it’s not like it’s a thin sound – there’s a lot in each song. I
can’t imagine there is room for a bass in there now. Which may mean that your
sound’s evolved that way but also it’s perfect as it is.
And a recorded album is a totally different experience to
our live show just because a record is a forever thing because you have more
opportunities to add layers. There are bass parts on some of our recordings.
Dustin does play bass a little bit now live, so a handful of our tunes live
have bass, which frees me up a little bit, but by and large the best compliment
I could get is really the compliment you just gave: when somebody sees us at a
show and says, ‘I don’t even miss the bass player. You guys have such a cool
sound.’
When I was first
listening to the album I went back to the bio checking for the name of the bass
player – I didn’t miss it either but I was convinced there had to be one
because of the sound. But I’ll move on to talk to you about your tour schedule.
Before you come to Australia you’ll be in the UK, you’re back home in Kansas
for a couple of shows and then you’re on a cruise. Is your schedule usually
like that – do you pack the year out?
Our schedule’s pretty insane sometimes – we go all over the
place. Travelling all over Europe and North America. It can be pretty intense.
It’s the hardest part of the job of being a musician. The intense travel can
really turn it into a grind.
It would be one thing
if you could be magically transported to a gig but so much of your time is
spent travelling that I would imagine it could sometimes be counterproductive
in that it’s quite tiring.
At this point I honestly would say that only 10 per cent of
the amount of time we spend on our jobs as musicians is playing music – if 10
per cent, maybe less, because of everything that goes into it. We’re not at the
point where we’re on a tour bus or a private jet. We’re driving ourselves to
all shows in the US, all shows in Europe. That’s one nice thing when we come to
Australia: we actually have somebody that’s going to be driving.
I’m glad about that
because Australia’s very big and just looking at your list of gigs, to get
around would take up pretty much all the time.
Yeah [laughs]. I’m all too familiar with taking up lots of
time. There’s times when we’ve driven 30 hours non-stop to play a one-hour
show.
Do you have any
expectations of your Australian trip or do you tend to go into all your gigs
expectation free?
I’m excited about it. I’ve learned over the years that to
have too many expectations can be good and/or bad at times so I try to shy from
too many expectations. But based on everything I’ve heard and everything I’ve
read, and everybody I’ve ever talked to that’s been there as a visitor or as a
performer has told me that it’s one of the most amazing places they’ve ever
been and that the people in Australia love live music and are really down to
earth, and [it’s] a fun place to be, so my expectation is that it will be
really, really cool.
MORELAND & ARBUCKLE AUSTRALIAN TOUR DATES
Saturday 18th February
Holler Roots Music Festival
Caravan Music Club
95-97 Drummond St Oakleigh VIC
Ph: 03 9568 1432
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Sunday 19th February
Spotted Mallard
314 Sydney Rd Brunswick VIC
Ph: 03 9380 8818
Monday 20th February
Prince Bandroom
29 Fitzroy St, St Kilda VIC
Ph: 03 9536 1168
Dinner & show tickets also available
Wednesday 22nd February
Stag & Hunter
187 Maitland Rd, Mayfield NSW
Ph: 02 4968 1205
Thursday 23rd February
Black Bear Lodge
322 Brunswick St Fortitude Valley QLD
Friday 24th February
Soundlounge
165 Duringan St Currumbin QLD
Ph: 07 5534 7999
Saturday 25th February
The Basement
7 Macquarie Place, Sydney NSW
Ph: 02 9251 2797
Dinner & show tickets also available
Sunday 26th February
The Brass Monkey
115A Cronulla St, Cronulla NSW
Ph: 02 9544 3844
Tickets to all shows available at
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