Tania Kernaghan probably needs no introduction - she's released six studio albums and won quite a few Golden Guitars, and her career in country music has been going enough to prompt the release of a Greatest Hits CD and DVD. It was a real pleasure to talk to Tania on the occasion of the CD/DVD release and to find out a bit about her life, her creative process and the causes that are close to her heart.
What was the first song you wrote?
'I'll Be Gone'. Keith Urban played guitar and backing  vocals on that particular track, and that was back in 1993, I think, when I  wrote the song.  That was a pretty  ground-breaking career move, I guess, for me.   I never realised at the time that the song would go on to be such a  great success.
So did you and Fiona [Kernaghan, Tania's sister and  songwriting partner] think you'd ever like to do something together, or it just  kind of happened?
Yeah, it just kind of happened. We pretty much realised  that we had to start writing our own songs if we wanted to make our own mark in  the music industry, and move away from singing cover songs. So we just started  putting pen to paper and writing together, and that's three decades ago now  [laughs] that we started writing together and Fiona has been very instrumental  in a lot of the songs that I've recorded and released over the years.
So, when you said you were doing cover songs, were you  mainly doing country covers, or were you doing a whole lot of things?
No, definitely country covers. It's pretty much all I've  ever done, in fact. I can't really sing any other styles very much. I think I'm  just so country through and through [laughs].
That's probably a good opportunity then to ask you about  your influences. Have they been the same the whole way through, because you  sing – or you write –what I would call a traditional country style?
Very much so and I grew up with people with Patsy Cline,  and Patty Loveless, Randy Travis, a lot of those early '80s, early '90s kind of  artists … When I was a kid I listened to ABBA and stuff like that. I guess  those songs were always pretty much at the forefront of when I was about a  seven or eight year old singing. But, definitely, the more traditional style of  country music, and then I guess these days with the different instrumentation  that you use and your backing tracks you can give it more of a 2012 sound, as  opposed to stripping it right back. It all comes back to, really, the lyrics of  the song. You can dress it up with different instruments and all the rest but  the lyrics are the most important thing.
You are a storytelling songwriter and country music is a  really great storytelling genre – in fact, probably the great storytelling  genre. Are you conscious of telling stories when you write songs?
I just write from real life experiences, mostly, and I  find that if I go out there and live it and see it and experience it, that it  always makes for a better song. Or if I meet somebody and they've got a  particular story to tell me, something that happened in their life that I find  very touching or moving, then usually I'll put pen to paper. So, I guess,  that's probably why the songs that turn out to be more like a story. But the  thing with country music is it's music that people can relate to, everyday kind  of working man music, and I think that's why it's so popular.
So when you're talking to people and you might get story  ideas, are you in the habit of keeping a notebook, or do you tend to store it  in your head and then sit down later on and write?
No, no you should see my iPhone – it's just got  pages and pages of song ideas [laughs].
What did you before an iPhone?
It used to be a notebook that I used to carry around with  me, but now it's instant on the phone. And then when I go to write an album's  worth of material I find that I pretty much have to submerge myself in it. So I  can't really be doing other things and then also writing the song. I find that  I need to pretty much go away for a couple of weeks and just think song, think  lyrics, think ideas and think music, and that's the best way for me to really  finish off those songs. But, yeah, a lot the ideas just come from people that I  meet in everyday life.
It sounds like when you're writing, it's almost like  there's a really intense creative period where you get a lot done. And, I  suppose, given the life you have, where you're touring a lot and you're doing a  lot of other things, you need to section off that time really?
Absolutely, and that's what you really need to do. You  might put a bit of ideas down to songs, but when it really comes to the crunch  you've got to just totally forget about office work, paying bills, grocery  shopping, all of those mundane kind of things that everybody has to do, and you  just have to section yourself off and just go away for a while. And I find if I  head out west or head up into the high country and just set myself up there for  a few weeks, that's the best place for me to go to start writing, get serious  about writing songs.
I read in your bio that you like to get in the car and go  out into the countryside, and you've just said that you like to write in the  high country, so it sounds like for you the land is a really powerful force or  a powerful motivator for what you're doing?
Definitely. I find that I have to get right out of the  city and just really get into that landscape of – I think it helps you keep in  touch with the songs that you're writing, the people that you're writing for.  And just to be surrounded by the wide open spaces, or perhaps it's up in the  hills, definitely helps you – it nourishes your soul when you're putting songs  down on paper.
And do you find when you go to country towns that you're  recognised quite a bit?
Yeah, country towns, particularly, people will take a  double look, but I'm very happy to talk to people and I think that I'm probably  very approachable and just in my personality its normally who I am. So, yeah,  I'm happy to have a chat with the people. In fact, I was down in Hughenden in out  western Queensland way a few weeks ago, and just in a little coffee shop out  there, and had quite a few people come up to me and want to have a chat. So I  was more than happy to do that.
It sounds like you're really aware of how you're singing  to an audience and that the audience feeds back to you in a way that you're  telling their stories and they're also reflecting back to you whether that  works or not.  And that seems like it's a  really fulfilling way for you to work.
It definitely is. It's a great gauge to know how your  songs are being translated out there and getting back to just that the lyrics  being so important. I think that some of the best ways to roadtest songs is to  be amongst some friends around the campfire and roadtest songs just with a guitar  and you can soon see if it's connecting with people and on that right level.  Yes, it's pretty important that I get the audience feedback because you put so  much into these songs and your albums that you want to make sure they have some  longevity.
I don't think we can dispute that you have longevity given  that this is a three-decade-spanning album or thereabouts!
Pretty much so, and I'm very happy due to the fact that  not only is it to our twenty years of recording songs – the greatest hits also  embraces a two-hour DVD and that tells the story of my life, and my touring and  lots of music video clips and how I got into the music business and a whole  swag of things. So it's really something that I'm very proud of, this  particular package.
I was reading that it seems like your Facebook fans have a  bit of influence in the song choice. Did it feel like of a strange way to  choose the list?
It's incredible the way social media works these days, but  I had my favourite songs that I wanted to include on the greatest hits, and I  put a call out there to everybody on Facebook and said, 'This is what I'm  doing. What are some of your favourite songs that you'd like see included on  the track listing?' It just came in thick and fast. 'Boys in Boots', 'Nine Mile  Run', 'Cowboy Up' – you name it. So it was the ones that really proved  the most popular that got the final say on the album.
Was your own list quite different then to what ended up  being on the album?
No, there was a couple of songs that I wouldn't have  thought would have made it there, that had been so popular, but it was a pretty  much I reckon 75 to 80 per cent there, it was pretty much what I felt in my  heart that were the right songs.
When you're out on the road performing – even though you  look like you must have started singing at the age of two to cover three  decades' worth of performing – does it feel like performing is almost a  different job to songwriting, so it's like different version of Tania that has  to go on the road to the one who is sitting there writing songs?
I think what you see is what you get with me, I'm pretty  much the same as I am at home as I am on stage. But I love singing on stage, I  feel like … You've heard people talk about being in dharma? Well, when  I'm on stage I feel like I'm in dharma. I just really love that  connection with people and the audience, I love singing, I love entertaining. I  love making people happy, and I just really find that's so much easier to do  when you're on stage. And I was four years old when I first got up on stage and  sang, and I got a few claps and loved it, so I thought I better learn some new  songs. I never, ever doubted in my mind that I wouldn't be an entertainer or a  singer. I never had another choice – you know, like a lot of kids would say,  well yeah, if that doesn't work out I'll go and do this. But I never had that.  I just always wanted to sing.
You mentioned dharma, which raises the idea of  music as a spiritual practice and creative work as a spiritual practice – it  seems like from a really young age you did know yourself and your own mind well  enough, almost identifying that it was a spiritual practice even then.
Yeah, maybe so, because it is an incredible feeling when  you're singing, and I've never really thought of it but I like that. But I  guess that singing and music can be so very much a healing thing as well, and I  feel the same when I'm on a horse – when I go riding it's just such a  great feeling and it's so hard to explain to people that don't know what it's  like, or have never ridden a horse before. The same kind feeling, it's just  like you know you're supposed to be there, and with the music that's exactly  how I feel. I know that I'm doing the right thing. And when I'm a bit removed  from it, and I haven't had the opportunity to go out on the road and tour or  sing for some reason or other, it's truly like you're being stifled.
So what you're talking about is the practice of being  present, which is something that most people strive to achieve but don't  actually achieve. And I think some musicians get it – not all of them, because  I think a lot people when they're performing are worrying about various things – but it sounds like you've really  cracked that ability to be present in those two things, horseriding and  performing?
I think so, and, yeah, you're very much on the money with  being present. And I do feel sorry for people who are working at a job that  they aren't getting any sort of gratification from, and they just feel like  it's a struggle. I just think we're not put on this earth to do that; we're  supposed to be doing stuff that we love, and life shouldn't be a struggle – it  should be a pleasure and an enjoyment. Sometimes you've got to make some  dramatic changes to really get yourself in the right zone, but I think don't  waste a minute with what you're doing. If you're not happy doing what you're  doing, change and do something else because just because our parents taught us  to do a particular job or expect something of us, it doesn't mean that's what  we've been put on this earth for.
I think you've identified that to do with work but also  your service is obviously a part of your life, because you are a patron of two  different charities, so I was just wondering if you could say a bit about Angel  Flight and also about Riding for the Disabled, and how you became involved and  what they mean to you?
Riding for Disabled, I got involved with them in about  2000 when I'd released a song called 'When I Ride', and there was a young girl  who was a rider at the Riding for Disabled Centre in Raymond Terrace (NSW). She  contacted me and she said to me, 'The lyrics in your song are' – and she quoted  a few of them, and she said, 'I close my eyes and I'm on the wind.  I can fly when I ride.' She said, 'That's  exactly how I feel when I'm riding my horse at the RDA centre.' And it was  through her and then a phone call from the head office of RDA asking me to be  their patron, which I was just absolutely stoked about because I'm passionate  about horses and I think that what Riding for Disabled provide that terrific  service to so many people, it's just fabulous. That's kind of how I got  involved with RDA. And then similarly to Angel Flights, I think I got involved  with an outback fundraising event through western Queensland about four years  ago, raising money for Angel Flights. Angel Flights look after non-medical  emergency cases for people who are in remote and rural regions who need to be  taken to medical centres for treatment. And there's a whole swag of pilots and  earth angels, as we call them, people on the ground that look after these  patients and it's all a free voluntary organisation. So it's so important to  people in remote areas of Australia which I'm very passionate about as well.
It sounds like you have a really rich and varied and very  satisfying life, which is amazing. I think that's what most people aspire to  have and perhaps don't ever get to, but it just seems like you've got all these  things sorted out, and it's really lovely to hear.
Well, I've got a lot of fingers in a lot of pies, it  seems, but there's never any time just to sit on my heels and say, 'Oh, I don't  know what to do, I'm bored'. There's so many things to experience, and I always  say life's like a big smorgasbord, there's just so many things to try and  experience and to taste – and start with Australia, because I believe  we've got one of the best countries in the world here. We should always make  sure that we look after it and look after its people.  
Just before I wrap up – you're going to head out on the road obviously for  this?
Yeah, we'll be on tour with the greatest hits, and so this  year and then also into next year as well, so there's plenty of gigs and shows  and things to be done in the next twelve months or so.
Tania Kernaghan's Greatest Hits is out now.

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